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Staff Immunity & Criticism

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Are staff possibly immune to criticism (due to the cultural climate of the server)?

Let's be real here, before I state anything, it's not relevant who I am because barely anyone in this community knows who I am so if the staff members will pry beyond the scenes and look at my IP address then so be it, fine. And while granted this tarnishes my ethos, to remain anonymous in inexplicable ways - you may consider me fearful of what the public eye of certain staff members may affect me with. Pardon my preface if it came off as brash or abrasive, however as this was not the intention but the only medium I had in my feelings to construct a preface. This is likely a fault of my own writing, but I ask kindly not to bare my diction with too much significance, as it is YOUR thoughts that matter here.

But I need to make something very clear towards this community in raising this question, because my experience on MassiveCraft has augmented the idea that Staff Members of MassiveCraft are immune to criticism under the guise of hate mongering and even to that point it is used as a veil to sheathe any spotlight that may criticize or challenge the ideas of certain staff members. Many Staff on MassiveCraft will claim this is "hate mongering" as it is most often done in Discord calls, but this is inappropriate labelling because it is not done with the intention to demean or hurt others. Staff should expect critique and judgment against all the work they do here because they are public servants.

I would like to remind everyone that the meaning of being a Staff Member to a community is to provide the community with a service or tool, this does not mean that Staff are of higher social standing which is often socially implied. The reason currently that people have to go and complain about Staff member action in private channels is due to the culture of resistance against criticism towards staff. There is, of course a point where criticism is done with malice, but in my own personal case I barely criticized and know the details surrounding the motivations for my affairs with the current Administration.

Now, while my own experience is leading me to believe that the culture of MassiveCraft is promoting a brick wall against all forms of criticism towards the Staff Members, this may or may not be the case, my detachment with the community for long intervals of time may strike this as otherwise. This is a question, not a criticism in itself. Granted it may be somewhat alluding or allegorical, passive aggressive even, but this is the nature of the server. A lot of things on this server, in OOC, are passive aggressive and it is difficult to trust people on the server. My experience with various members of the community and the culture that is promoted was not a positive one but this is inherently subjective - do not think of this as an argument. This is just more or less a comment. But I'd like to stress that this is a question.

Are MassiveCraft Staff Immune to Criticism? If you think yes, then give your reasons why and vice versa if no. What has your experience been with the current administration, what is your perception of the current staff - do you fear them enough to keep your comments to private channels even if they are questioning of the personal character, actions or personality of certain Staff Members? All of these are questions to ask when constructing your responses. I do not want to see ad hominems of any sort, I'd like to facilitate a civil, positive and constructive thread. This is because by doing so we may begin to amend some of the problems with the staff culture on the server. And now while many staff members will point out the 'Staff Complaint' feature, I know from a fact from 'private discord calls' - this feature is not really respected or considered often, at least this is the account of various individuals in private servers.

Some players even find that Staff are quick to usher out bans for incidents on 'Discord' with minimalistic cases of evidence or proof on the player, because of hearsay and other factors. While this is questionable, it is something that requires investigation. On the account of unwritten rules, it is also concerning in some 'private discord calls' that I've heard many people are troubled by the unwritten rules of massivecraft, or the hidden set of rules that Staff /will/ ban for but is not explicitly stated on the rule page. MassiveCraft reserves the right to remove anyone from the server for any reason (corrupt or not), but as a company of dignity it requires some inquiry into the nature of these 'unwritten rules'. In short, many players are becoming more scared of staff because of these methods of penalization, but this also ties closely into the culture of how staff operate to justify why many are in fear of speaking up against them.

Now what do I mean by staff culture? Addressing the climate of staff on the server, it is no doubt that many players (including myself) have viewed Staff Members especially on Minecraft as some upper echelon force of players that control the server and operate it indefinitely. But what is the nature of a staff member? It is someone that is working for you, and not working for the bureaucracy, this is what it should be. In many cases personal bias, cliquish, and other elements corrode staff working environments and this is by no means limited to the culture on MassiveCraft, it is just a negative element of what Staff can become. However, it is my own personal belief that the idea Staff are somehow of a higher social and power status than a regular player is toxic and corrosive to the community and this should be addressed within the Staff Codex.

There needs to be an effort to ensure that staff are not viewed as some elite organization that everyone is scared to speak up against or question forthright, and furthermore some staff members should cease being quick to penalize players for their opinions if this case has ever occurred. There have been negative infractions with certain staff members during my time(s) on the server, and this is unfortunate but it is unavoidable. Try and avoid talking about specific scenarios when replying, and see the bigger picture instead. We need to recognize staff as public servants rather than a collective of friends that avoid talking to players as much as possible. Like it or not, you sign up as a staff member to a job. A professional job, as there is a Staff 'Contract' of sorts in place, you do not sign up to be in a friend circle and do friendly work. Staff should be taken more seriously, objectively and holistically in my opinion, and I'd like to see what other perspectives can offer on this philosophy.

A lot of you, are likely tempted to point to very specific cases, with specific staff members even passively, but I urge, greatly, against doing this. In these cases where we collect our thoughts we must be discrete but also capture the bigger picture to avoid offending or hurting any staff members who could negatively penalize you. Yes, we need to be respectful, but a lot of cases I've heard personally are awarded to people who have been respectful but have done something personally wrong, on the account of certain 'unwritten rules'. Nevertheless, you need to show dignity and kindness in your thoughts and responses, because it is uncivil to not do so. As a server full of adolescents and adults, it is imperative that we retain self control.
 
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yes but i can't sa-- oh shit who's at my door MARTY I WAUIHJSDIUHFIHFSIUH KIDDINGS IUDHJ no what makes you say that XD
 
and he was never seen again

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This is likely a fault of my own writing
I think you downplay how well of a writer you are.

Anyways, my opinion on this question. I do believe there is a bit of intimidation from players towards staff, but I believe most servers have that. And it isn't necessarily a bad thing. I know some newer staff members that I personally would not be intimidated by because I had conversations and interacted with them before when they were normal players.

I do not think that staff is immune to criticism. I remember this one instance where I criticized a staff member (for whatever reason, this was years ago) and got back a sound reply. Personally at the time I was much too immature to realize I was in the wrong. But throughout the whole process of criticizing and going through the whys and finding a solution to the problem (I was the problem and was in the wrong) I now realize that staff can be criticized and do not have a wall that protects them from being criticized. This was my experience with actually criticizing a staff member and seeing the results of it.

I do not think that staff is immune to criticism, but I do believe that players are intimidated by staff. I remember back when Lazulia was still on Massive that I could have conversations with her and was not intimidated by her at all. Most of the time staff are too busy doing actual work for Massive that they don't have time to interact with players on a more personal level. You just got to get to know the staff member more :)
 
Staff have access to the Ban logging section I did a quick roll out of ban reasons. I obviously censored the banned usernames reasons here:
This is a reason log from today to July 1st 2018:

Hacked Client
Alt Abuse
Alt Abuse
Hacked Client
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Being an asshat, Alt abuse
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Hacked Client, Racism
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Being an Asshat
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Username Change Ban, Inappropriate Username
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Advertising
Alt Abuse
Inappropriate actions towards minors
Hacked Client
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Advertising
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Alt Abuse
Hacked Client
Hacked Client for MCMMO levels, mass Alt Evasion (has since been unbanned & re-banned permanently)
Hacked Client
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Advertising
Hacked Client
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Alt Abuse
Advertising
Username Change Ban, Inappropriate Username
Alt abuse Hacked Client
Extreme Roleplay Disruption and OOC harassment of players (has since been unbanned)
Granted, the Ban Logging only takes in Permanent bans. We don't register temporary bans, but they aren't being addressed here. I checked up server logs and found only 4 Temporary bans in the last 14 days of which I removed the names, but the reasons were identical: "3 days Construction, use, and knowledge of illegal auto farm used to kill and harvest chickens

Bans in the roleplay community are exceedingly, exceedingly rare. And I need to stress rare, at all. In some years we've only ever banned less than 5 roleplayers, in some years even only just 2 (Since the server reset, only 2 bans on Roleplayers remain I believe of the 7 years of operating). There are, additionally as such, no bans related to Discord. Some of the people who reply to this thread would have gotten server banned already if that were the case, because of what passes for normal conduct in their faction discords. And that's absolutely fine. Massive does not aim to control what happens in private discords, players also understand that Massive Staff behave more loosely on their own Discords, and that mutual respect/disinterest whatever you want to call it is what makes Discord such a nice place, However.

Your ban, is a bit different, and dare I say unique. You were previously banned for (not just in private), dragging staff into mass Skype chats and making me out to be a pedophile and being creepy to Staff members, verbal harassment and things that go beyond the capacity for what anyone should have to be toxic. You were unbanned because I let you be unbanned. Despite how miserable you made me feel, I decided to take that 2 page apology you made as your honesty and regret at everything you did. Within the same week (or the second?) of you being unbanned, 2 players separately stepped forward to report what you said in a Discord, knowing your history, and knowing why you were banned before, and 2 others added to it further when inquired.

None of the other people in your Discord call at the time were punished at all. They are still on the server and nobody even looked sideways at them for what they did or said, because it's not that kind of environment I want to foster on the server. The difference is that they weren't on permanent un-revoke-able ban probation for "being someone whose entire presence on Massive was just to spite staff as much as possible". I chose to re-instate your ban, because I do not think that after the history you've created on the server, that you deserve to enjoy even a second of what I've worked 7 years for, and there are other staff who felt the same way.

actually speaking, as such, there are no discord bans, and there never have been. Nobody gets punished for Discord behavior in any way, though Discord behavior if bad enough does weigh into other matters as supporting evidence, though only rarely does. Your case is the only one I can remember specifically where Discord was ever a factor, and that was entirely because of the 2 year history you've had before it.

As much as I'd like to respond in full, I don't think the thread really merits it. Constantly peppering "Staff ban for Discord chats!!!" with "Oh but I mean to make a debate and not make this a slander post!" doesn't not make it scaremongering. It presents incorrect facts and mis-truths to try and get a point across which is utter nonsense. Just yesterday we demoted a staff member for not living up to our standards and they resigned afterwards to respect that they could no longer fit the bill. We constantly have PR, particularly SpunSugar, engage with disenfranchised players who feel their opinions aren't being heard to make sure they have a voice, and these factors definitely weigh into considerations that are being made by multiple departments.

My concluding thought on the matter is: Does Massive have problems in terms of corruption and un-approach-ability among staff? Definitely, anyone would be naive to deny that since it is a natural state of any hierarchy. But I am also very much convinced that because of the QA and bureaucracy surrounding staff, that those levels are within toleration and far lower than any of the storms of mass-abuse and actual illegal actions undertaken on other servers. These factors are always ongoing matters of self-improvement.

But I also have to unfortunately ban your account now because you're ban evading and that's against the rules, and then lock this thread. That is unfortunate because it plays into the "look I'm being censored!!!" appeal of this kind of public griefing, but protocol is protocol. If I choose not to ban your account because of this thread then I should apply the same treatment to every player who makes a new account on the Forums while already being banned, and I'm not about to do that. I'll not delete the thread though. We only remove rule breaking content from the forums.
 
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