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About Something Thats Been Bothering Me

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I feel like its time for me to adress this now.

Since i joined massive ive been getting more playtime , but also a reputation added with that ,
Usually with it ending up bad or being known as someone whos toxic , or well you know the drill,
And honestly i need advice on this , I want to make this better instead of worse.
So please put your opinion on this if you could, Thank you
 
idk man i just want to know , its been told to me that theres something that gives me bad rep but idk man
 
I'm fairly new here myself, and what I can offer you is only an opinion. But it's something I have come to learn over the years as a fact. Treat the average acquaintance you meet fairly and equally, obviously your friends deserve much more. Respect is a resource that is limitless, if you offer it you'll likely receive it in return and be remembered for that. In the end you will likely not be remembered as a toxic person, hardly any reputation sticks with an individual after a year long period, let alone on a minecraft server. Take it easy, and don't worry about what someone or some group might think about you.
 
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Hi sub! You and I don't know each other, but I have the answer you're looking for.

Because I'm relatively new to the Massive community, I have to make up for that by asking all sorts of questions about "Who is that?" And "Tell me about this person."
Since my first week playing on Massive, I have heard the same information about you from pretty much everyone regardless of who I ask. They all say the same thing: Sub is in it for himself. Sub is only in it for what he will get out of it.
If only one person said this, I'd say you probably cheated them. But that's not the case. I even had a chance to experience this secondhand when we found some chests you had locks on in a tower we took over. We asked you to come unlock them and get your things out of them, easy day. We would have even helped you move the things. Instead, you left the locks on them and tried to steal from the other chests around yours. We ended up having to get staff involved to unlock your chests.

Here's what you want to know: how do you fix such a reputation?
That's easy--but it's not going to be a quick fix. Show some loyalty and selflessness to others. As suggested above, learn to give respect and to be respectful of others. As others find that you are being more selfless, slowly your reputation will change and you'll find that you'll have a lot more friends willing to get your back for a great deal longer.

Props to you for the courage to have made this post. I wish you the best.
 
Sub you are a good man, but you have one single flaw, you stick to nothing, you jump from bed to bed, settle down, gather yourself together and plan what you are going to do next
 
I don't think you're toxic, but that might just be because you're eternally 12 in my head and everything you ever do will be adorable, keep it up sub :)
 
the only issue I have with you is your lack of loyalty and dedication to anyone or anything other than yourself. You've led factions however you viewed it as your members being obligated to you and its supposed to be the other way around. good leaders put their members above themselves and thats one of the only things I've seen you struggle with and is one of the reasons I haven't been as friendly to you as I was in the past. Gather your bearings and settle down and dig in. From there you can recreate a new rep and gain respect.
 
You've made big strides in improving your reputation mate, keep up the good work and before long you'll be adored by the commoners trust
 
*Slips into the chat~*

Hiya Subby. Its Pakk/Flare! Reputations can be a lot of hassle and trouble to keep up, I know the pain very well as many can tell you I was once considered toxic and quite horrible myself.
What I can tell you is that while sometimes, we do nothing, more often then not the case is that we simply dont understand how we're coming across. What we might consider to be perfectly fine might not be the reality. In the process of trying to fix my own reputation, I found that I had actually been selfish and rather insensitive to other people. I grew to understand that I wanted success too badly and it led me to make bad decisions.

While I dont know if how I went about it will help you as well, I took some time off from massive, and once things had settled, both here and IRL for me, I went back having an open mind. I worked towards being loyal, helpful, not judgmental, and being a team player. When making decisions, I stopped to ask how my choices would affect others around me, and asked myself day to day what I could do to make people happier, not for any reward, but because they deserve to be. I still work towards this. Im not perfect yet, and I never will be.

But in a nutshell, put others first and yourself second and remember that in the end, this is all a game. And remember, things wont change overnight. Its a dedicated choice that requires a lot of hard work.
Sometimes you'll feel like its useless and no one will notice or that people will never let go of their bad opinions of you no matter what you do. But they will notice when you put the effort in. They really will.

From what I hear you're already taking the steps to be a better dude and know i'm cheering you on! Keep it up! And if you ever need a buddy, come find me!
 
cough @GrumpyGirl314 I would never trust someone else to help me move my stuff. Especially in factions, where I was looted and killed by an ALLY because we were moving and he wanted to help. Took an entire inventory of blue level lore items.
 
SubscriptShark said:
I feel like its time for me to adress this now.

Since i joined massive ive been getting more playtime , but also a reputation added with that ,
Usually with it ending up bad or being known as someone whos toxic , or well you know the drill,
And honestly i need advice on this , I want to make this better instead of worse.
So please put your opinion on this if you could, Thank you
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I just try to be semi-nice in raids, stay away from swear words, and... idk just try not to accuse people of hacks or anything.

I honestly have no clue why people think you're toxic.
 
@CorrosGaming

Ask @MokeDuck . :) I've helped him multiple times.
I don't blame you at all---and I've heard the stories before too. But your rep is something that you grow--small steps at a time. (like helping a duck move his eggs)
 
It's hard because you can't be liked by everyone, and there's a thin line in eye eyes of many between 'being honest and direct' and being toxic. While I take criticism on board, it doesn't necessarily affect me on a personal level. 'Sticks and stones' and all.
 
I personally do not like commenting on these sort of threads but I feel like I have in this case, my reasoning behind this is because of my history with Sub and how we have crossed paths many time and continue to do so. I want to reiterate the point that I am writing this opinion from a player opinion, as a person who considers Sub a friend.

Firstly, I'm going to say that I have never been active outside in the outer politics of MassiveCraft until around last year when I was brought back, by Sub himself. This has been sort of advantageous for me, I've never actually seen Sub commit any real double crossing of anyone. I've heard story's of your dealings with people, frankly, in recent months I have put all of this stuff in the past.

Personally, I do believe that if you want to be popular or somewhat liked, don't do everything in the name of serving ones self. The best way to be liked is by serving others. Of course you need to look after yourself, the human brain is configured to care for ones self naturally but when this is overdone, it can annoy and pardon my language, piss other people off. If you show dedication to a cause or to a group of people, you stick to your morals of honesty and have good public conduct, people will naturally get along with you.

Personally Sub, I do like you and I do enjoy your company. While there have been grievances in the past, which I now consider water under the bridge, I do like you, believe me when I say that. I must also give you credit in recent months, you have improved your reputation among the server community and you have become more trustworthy overall.
 
We've fought, we've forgiven, and at the end of the day I do like to imagine you as a pretty good person. Just try to act for others more often than yourself (keeping in mind what Cnoc said!), and you should be good to go.
Also try and think about the consequences of actions a bit more =P.
;)
 
Thanks all for all the Advice , im going to start and pick up more of these Suggestions
 
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When is your "crusade" against tyberia beginning???
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Same, can't stand having those Jae and Lyee people as leader! Let's end those silly nerds for good >;D

In relation to this thread, a "Crusade" against an innocent faction will only hurt your reputation, from what I can see. But you do you.
 
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Lyee said:
Same, can't stand having those Jae and Lyee people as leader! Let's end those silly nerds for good >;D

In relation to this thread, a "Crusade" against an innocent faction will only hurt your reputation, from what I can see. But you do you.
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I'm merely quoting when I mentioned the crusade, but yes a terrible idea
 
SoulSunder said:
I think this falls under more like "if you don't have anything useful, nice or important to add to a conversation, don't say anything at all" category. It wasn't useful to know he didn't care, wasn't important for us to know he didn't care and it certainly was an insensitive response to the situation, so that rules out being nice/thoughtful. It's responses like that that makes people think less of him. I know you specifically may not care, but I'm sure other people do and they likely thought less of him when he said that.

@SubscriptShark, if you actually cares about your image, maybe you should think about what you're saying and apply the "if you don't have anything useful, nice or important to add to a conversation, don't say anything at all" rule to yourself. Not only will it help yourself in situations, it can be a powerful diplomatic tool with other people. Or be like me and don't give a rats love about what people think of you, it's up to you buddy.
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First off you don't know me. The category that my sentence falls into is a joke between two friends. Don't assume my sentence is less than what it means or assume my sentence makes people think less of him, because that just makes you seem like a jerk.
 
Another two cents will be thrown in on my part:

The best way to deal with situations is to take an honest approach.

My advice is to admit to things openly when someone confronts you about it and express a willingness and even an plain desire to change for the better. It's not much, but it's a good foundation on which to build. From there, go about trying to influence the community in positive ways. I'm a roleplayer not a factioneer, so I can't say the examples I'm about to give pertaining to that will be all that sound. In RP, you can do so by offering ooc help based on experience with things, such as aiding with the running and managing of events and house guards. With factions, I'm guessing you can do the same in terms of hosting events, but also actively helping and being a positive influence to help negate the negative.

It'll be a long road, but if you persevere, you'll reach your desired destination. Just keep at it, basically!

The more you do it, the more you'll be known, the more you're known, the more known your actions will be and the heavier they'll factor in on the opinions of people.

Sadly, some people only see the negative, so there will always be some who try to bring you down, but chin up!

I hope this helps. I'm not really used to giving this kind of advice.

Oh and one more thing I've learned from personal experience: Be constructive, but don't give all your criticism at one. Do one negative statement, then a positive, and so on.

EDIT: I know at the very least Factions is more lenient than the RP community, so you have that as an advantage. Always remember, it could be worse and stay sunny!
 
Koajack said:
Maybe you shouldn't beat your meat while in a call with a girl, and then inform her of it later on. Not exactly toxic but it's pretty fvcked up and I'm sure it's not beneficial to your reputation. If you care what people think of you, don't do creepy shlt to close friends.
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It isn't good for his reputation
so you expose him on the Forums when he's making a conscious effort to improve

N i c e
 
Koajack said:
Maybe you shouldn't beat your meat while in a call with a girl, and then inform her of it later on. Not exactly toxic but it's pretty fvcked up and I'm sure it's not beneficial to your reputation. If you care what people think of you, don't do creepy shlt to close friends.
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YO WHAT??

also why is this thread still circulating everyone is literally repeating the same thing
Be nice, the end
 
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