Craftable Potions

Wooperr · Mar 19, 2018

As of the last big armor and potion update to factions, the ability to instantly craft non-mcmmo potions (strength, speed, fire res, regen,etc.) was removed for no apparent reason that I am aware of. Setting up a brewer, and brewing itself takes a very long time, and may seem like a daunting task to new players. Having vanilla potions craftable was an easy way for everybody, new players especially, to make potions and fight back. Brewing and insta-crafting still cost the same amount of resources, yet it was decided to implement the one that takes longer. I would like to know what the motivation was behind making another barrier for players to pvp, when the whole focus as of late was to get people to defend and fight. I would like to hear everybody's opinion on this. @Tokuu @Sephite @Omnomivore @Synthesia @Viscar @hardname12 @Maytee

Tom3409 · Mar 19, 2018

+1000 add this back please!!

hardname12 · Mar 19, 2018

No point in having it removed add it back

Sir_Daragon · Mar 19, 2018

Bring them back. No reason to remove them.

Winterless · Mar 19, 2018

This is literally already planned to return lads after world deletion

Sir_Daragon · Mar 19, 2018

Synthesia said:
This is literally already planned to return lads after world deletion

Why did thry even remove then.

Lord_ArchAngel · Mar 19, 2018

Is there a way we can make it so you can level out alchemy by crafting pots

Winterless · Mar 19, 2018

Sir_Daragon said:
Why did thry even remove then.

Probably an oversight, although they have admitted to me that they acknowledge it was a stupid idea.

Staff are learning, it seems.

Tokuu · Mar 19, 2018

Lord_ArchAngel said:
Is there a way we can make it so you can level out alchemy by crafting pots

This would be incredibly broken so no.

Winterless · Mar 19, 2018

Lord_ArchAngel said:
Is there a way we can make it so you can level out alchemy by crafting pots

blue name f u n n y

hardname12 · Mar 19, 2018

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Ninja124r · Mar 19, 2018

don't add this back. it's so bad and doesn't even work! honestly we should just remove pots completely since it gives such an unfair advantage to rpers who are new to the scene! please do not add this or i will report this!

Maytee · Mar 19, 2018

I'll admit I have opposed reinstating craft-able potions for a while (mostly because of the hours on hours I've spent trying to perfect my brewer) but I see the advantages to this mechanic and would welcome it back.

65jes89 · Mar 19, 2018

Yea honestly don't really remember anyone asking for it to be removed, would be nice to see it back

Winterless · Mar 20, 2018

65jes89 said:
Yea honestly don't really remember anyone asking for it to be removed, would be nice to see it back

j e s speaks the truth

MorgothTheDark · Mar 20, 2018

Bring it back but don't let it give XP.

Sir_Daragon · Mar 20, 2018

Winterless said:
Probably an oversight, although they have admitted to me that they acknowledge it was a stupid idea.

Staff are learning, it seems.

its understandable, staff make alot of mistake

Winterless · Mar 20, 2018

Sir_Daragon said:
its understandable, staff make alot of mistake

Ye, like unbanning you <3

Winterless · Mar 20, 2018

MorgothTheDark said:
Bring it back but don't let it give XP.

Oh hey it's the dude who only plays to cap koth

65jes89 · Mar 20, 2018

MorgothTheDark said:
Bring it back but don't let it give XP.

It never did in the first place

Sir_Daragon · Mar 20, 2018

Winterless said:
Ye, like unbanning you <3

idk buddy, you get banned, muted, and jailed more often staff mess up(and they do often)

MorgothTheDark · Mar 20, 2018

Winterless said:
Oh hey it's the dude who only plays to cap koth

completely irrelevant

just because I dont play with you in factions doesn't mean I don't play

I've played on this server for five years, it's completely idiotic to say all I do is play koth, hell when I first started playing I don't even think koth was a thing, at least I never remember seeing it if it was.

65jes89 said:
It never did in the first place

I never said it did, I said that because L_AA said something about it.

Winterless · Mar 20, 2018

MorgothTheDark said:
completely irrelevant

just because I dont play with you in factions doesn't mean I don't play

I've played on this server for five years, it's completely idiotic to say all I do is play koth, hell when I first started playing I don't even think koth was a thing, at least I never remember seeing it if it was.

I never said it did, I said that because L_AA said something about it.

Takes meme seriously

Winterless · Mar 20, 2018

Sir_Daragon said:
idk buddy, you get banned, muted, and jailed more often staff mess up(and they do often)

Ye, dont brag about destroying facs tho

Sir_Daragon · Mar 20, 2018

Winterless said:
Ye, dont brag about destroying facs tho

i wouldnt brag about using hack client if i did, but disbanding faction can be seen as part of faction, dude left perms in a vulnerable way, same way you might use allies doors or allies f home tp to raid them.
and can you ever not flame? this is a post about craftable pots, not whos worst at playing

Winterless · Mar 21, 2018

Sir_Daragon said:
i wouldnt brag about using hack client if i did, but disbanding faction can be seen as part of faction, dude left perms in a vulnerable way, same way you might use allies doors or allies f home tp to raid them.
and can you ever not flame? this is a post about craftable pots, not whos worst at playing

i mean you literally first replied with staff flame so :/

MokeDuck · Mar 21, 2018

Sir_Daragon said:
i wouldnt brag about using hack client if i did, but disbanding faction can be seen as part of faction, dude left perms in a vulnerable way, same way you might use allies doors or allies f home tp to raid them.
and can you ever not flame? this is a post about craftable pots, not whos worst at playing

I would argue that abusing perms shouldn't be a part of factions, although I understand the necessity. That's why I push for a MassiveSeige plugin... to make raiding less of looking for abuses and more of a fun process thats more like KOTH but with items lost (so no knockback sticks and respawning with them)

Winterless · Mar 21, 2018

MokeDuck27 said:
I would argue that abusing perms shouldn't be a part of factions, although I understand the necessity. That's why I push for a MassiveSeige plugin... to make raiding less of looking for abuses and more of a fun process thats more like KOTH but with items lost (so no knockback sticks and respawning with them)

koth's already being changed fam

Wooperr · Mar 21, 2018

@Tokuu @Sephite @Omnomivore Player input has seemed overwhelming in favor of bringing back craftable potions. I would like to have some staff input and maybe the chances that this would get re-implemented?

Winterless · Mar 21, 2018

Wooperr said:
@Tokuu @Sephite @Omnomivore Player input has seemed overwhelming in favor of bringing back craftable potions. I would like to have some staff input and maybe the chances that this would get re-implemented?

it's already likely going to happen after world deletion I already said this lmao

65jes89 · Mar 21, 2018

Winterless said:
it's already likely going to happen after world deletion I already said this lmao

Source tho? I don't remember ever seeing that.

Wooperr · Mar 21, 2018

Winterless said:
it's already likely going to happen after world deletion I already said this lmao

To my knowledge nothing has been said by staff on this being added back in. Would rather see staff say if its being re-implemented and why it was taken out in the first place rather than just a regular player. Players like to say a lot of things that will be implemented when they aren't a part of the staff team; it almost always is not implemented if there is no actual post from staff.

Winterless · Mar 21, 2018

65jes89 said:
Source tho? I don't remember ever seeing that.

I've been told fam, I was in the ts when the staff acknowledged that removing craftable pots was a bad idea and that changes to PvP would happen AFTER the major project finished, which is world deletion.

Ask any game staff and they'll probably tell you something similar

Tokuu · Mar 22, 2018

Winterless said:
I've been told fam, I was in the ts when the staff acknowledged that removing craftable pots was a bad idea and that changes to PvP would happen AFTER the major project finished, which is world deletion.

Ask any game staff and they'll probably tell you something similar

We've not said anything concrete, just that certain ideas are being considered. This is one of those being considered, and we will look into PvP changes in depth in the weeks following Relocations. I ask that everyone interested formulates detailed opinions as to what changes should occur, and why. The better, more in depth arguments we have, the more likely we are of finding that "sweet spot" wherein the larger player base is happy, and we don't just cater to a specific few.

MokeDuck · Mar 22, 2018

Winterless said:
koth's already being changed fam

good to know. A siege plugin thats like KoTH would still be fun and much better than finding weird ways to glitch into a base

Sir_Daragon · Mar 23, 2018

Winterless said:
I've been told fam, I was in the ts when the staff acknowledged that removing craftable pots was a bad idea and that changes to PvP would happen AFTER the major project finished, which is world deletion.

Ask any game staff and they'll probably tell you something similar

He did ask....

Winterless · Mar 23, 2018

Sir_Daragon said:
He did ask....

{citation needed}

Sir_Daragon · Mar 23, 2018

Wooperr said:
@Tokuu @Sephite @Omnomivore Player input has seemed overwhelming in favor of bringing back craftable potions. I would like to have some staff input and maybe the chances that this would get re-implemented?

Winterless said:
I've been told fam, I was in the ts when the staff acknowledged that removing craftable pots was a bad idea and that changes to PvP would happen AFTER the major project finished, which is world deletion.

Ask any game staff and they'll probably tell you something similar

Sir_Daragon said:
He did ask....

Winterless said:
{citation needed}

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