The Republic?

[Blanclour]

I was asked several times to join a "Republic" that wishes to unite south ellador.
I don't know much about this Republic, so I've decided to ask the forums about it.
The host faction as far as I know is Serenum.

 

[Rozzelyn]

Yes, the Serene Republicis quite legit. It has been an empire for a long time now andrecently turned into a republic. For more info, check out the Serenum Faction Sub-Forum

 

[Watchdogeditor]

A bit too serene, to be honest... I attacked Serenum earlier today, just to see what would happen... I killed everyone within the city. They need better defenses, no offence or anything

 

[Bsavs]

Serenum is latin for good weather. And I'll make sure to be on next time.

Anyways thats completely off topic and you seem to be a tad boastful

 

[Watchdogeditor]

Serenum is latin for good weather. And I'll make sure to be on next time.

Anyways thats completely off topic and you seem to be a tad boastful

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Off-topic? I can agree with that somewhat, yes. I mostly just said that to let him know of said minor fluke. Boastful? If it seemed so, unintentional... I can't really brag about ambushing and slaughtering a bunch of unarmored folks and one guy in diamond who didn't quite realize the danger until he was dead [DOUBLEPOST=1355715337][/DOUBLEPOST]Good weather? Huh... I assumed it was just based off of "Serene" as in peace... Interesting.

 

[Blanclour]

Anyone else have opinions to share?

 

[TaxConsumption]

Off-topic? I can agree with that somewhat, yes. I mostly just said that to let him know of said minor fluke. Boastful? If it seemed so, unintentional... I can't really brag about ambushing and slaughtering a bunch of unarmored folks and one guy in diamond who didn't quite realize the danger until he was dead [DOUBLEPOST=1355715337][/DOUBLEPOST]Good weather? Huh... I assumed it was just based off of "Serene" as in peace... Interesting.

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Why so bashful

 

[Watchdogeditor]

Anyone else have opinions to share?

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Well, while I'm at it, I'll go in-depth about the strange color of the state in Argonia's shoes... xD

 

[ulumulu1510]

Anyone else have opinions to share?

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We are trying to get something roling, this means RP, infrastructure and trade. And also, it could be fun and is not/don't have to be rwlated to serenum. The Prime-Minister is not elw ted yet, the strees ar unfinished but everything we want to achieve and projectise leads to prosperity. Some factions do take a role in the republic, as the 9thLegion is doing. We as an example are providing an army to the senate, others like Helvetica provide a harbour and trade center. Read the forums of the republic a bit, you'll see we are nice And for you watchdog, it seems I can show my fighters a new arch enemy perhaps?

 

[Watchdogeditor]

We are trying to get something roling, this means RP, infrastructure and trade. And also, it could be fun and is not/don't have to be rwlated to serenum. The Prime-Minister is not elw ted yet, the strees ar unfinished but everything we want to achieve and projectise leads to prosperity. Some factions do take a role in the republic, as the 9thLegion is doing. We as an example are providing an army to the senate, others like Helvetica provide a harbour and trade center. Read the forums of the republic a bit, you'll see we are nice And for you watchdog, it seems I can show my fighters a new arch enemy perhaps?

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Well... I'd rather not start a war with the Republic... But, I'll leave it your call

 

[MonMarty]

Serenum is a power farce, no Republic led by them will be truly democratic.

 

[Jomdorr]

I dissagree with the whole serenum thing, I built my minor group on my own with no help and 30 silver to start with, for all the effort it took i will lead my people for the sake that i built it. Im by no means one of those horrid dictators who's people need freed, but my people are loyal to me by choice, not because its popular ... like this vast republic. in my opinion people join because they are sheep, though it is clear that there is a vast amount of reasons for joing them, like security, history and connections, money, debts owed to serenum (moral debts)

 

[southw3i3n3d]

The primary reasons I joined the republic were better opportunity to roleplay, and more stuff to do while I'm on.

 

[Darkfeather]

Off-topic? I can agree with that somewhat, yes. I mostly just said that to let him know of said minor fluke. Boastful? If it seemed so, unintentional... I can't really brag about ambushing and slaughtering a bunch of unarmored folks and one guy in diamond who didn't quite realize the danger until he was dead [DOUBLEPOST=1355715337][/DOUBLEPOST]Good weather? Huh... I assumed it was just based off of "Serene" as in peace... Interesting.

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Actually, the original basis was Serene, but in a different way. Originally, the faction was to be a trading area, and one of the greatest historical trading powers was Venice. The Serene Republic of Venice. Serene became Serenum, and we have, it seems, now returned to our roots as a Serene Republic.

Serenum is a power farce, no Republic led by them will be truly democratic.

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Serenum has demonstrated it's experience in creating great things with other factions, and the time of Dictatorships is over.

I dissagree with the whole serenum thing, I built my minor group on my own with no help and 30 silver to start with, for all the effort it took i will lead my people for the sake that i built it. Im by no means one of those horrid dictators who's people need freed, but my people are loyal to me by choice, not because its popular ... like this vast republic. in my opinion people join because they are sheep, though it is clear that there is a vast amount of reasons for joing them, like security, history and connections, money, debts owed to serenum (moral debts)

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You said that the reason people join the Republic is because they are sheep, but then mentioned half a dozen other completely valid reasons. In addition to those, there are many more left unsaid. The Republic has been created because many factions in the world want to move beyond small-scale factions onto truly greater projects that will involve hundreds of people. Your people follow you, but do they have a choice? Their belongings are all in your faction, as well as their friends. Most dictatorial factions are held together merely by personal bonds, not by true benefit to their members.

 

[Chris Knight]

the faction Serenum is currently working on its defenses, the city watchdog is talking about is newly build, and does not have a wall yet. as for the Republic, it is infact a republic. I dont know what MonMarty's point is, because a republic and a democracy are two different things. Your faction will be able to elect a senator to represent you within the republic, and upon joining us, you will have the entire Republic as an ally, to assist you in the defense of your faction.

 

[MonMarty]

I don't actually have a point, I just think a positive thing should always be counter weighed by a negative points to have more emphasis.

 

[favoured]

Oh, I thought you were just hating on us

 

[Jomdorr]

You said that the reason people join the Republic is because they are sheep, but then mentioned half a dozen other completely valid reasons. In addition to those, there are many more left unsaid. The Republic has been created because many factions in the world want to move beyond small-scale factions onto truly greater projects that will involve hundreds of people. Your people follow you, but do they have a choice? Their belongings are all in your faction, as well as their friends. Most dictatorial factions are held together merely by personal bonds, not by true benefit to their members.

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actually matey the /f access overrides /f perms so the majority of my people can leave and still have access to there stuff
also my opinion was that they are sheep opinions can vary from fact my friend i like to present both sides, there friends are there as well by choice there is almost no pressure in my empire for people to stay, they do so cause they like it coming under my rule is not seen as a chore either myc company is enjoyed by all who choose to stay, those who dislike it leave, the only consequence to them is if they leave privated chests other than that my people are as free as yours if not more free due to lack of attachment

 

[Chris Knight]

I don't actually have a point, I just think a positive thing should always be counter weighed by a negative points to have more emphasis.

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What a tool.

 

[MonMarty]

Hardly, a tool implies I am copying behavior or acting like others in a drone like fashion, while this opinion was formed fabricated with the intent to destabilize a concept that I feel is bad for global economy.

 

[favoured]

You mean republics are bad for the economy? I knew it....

 

[Darkfeather]

Actually I think it could build up the global economy. A united republic would have not only infrastructure, but also businesses. The fact that we (Serenum, at least) are using the f access system allows for shops to be placed not only in your faction land, but in other factions areas if you "buy" the chunk, perhaps. I'm encouraging franchise-shops to set up in my city, and from there they will hopefully spread to other factions. Recognizable names will pop up, and the security offered by the Republic's united & defended borders will allow for the freedom to actually go to cities and trade.

Things such as "A shop in Serenotta is buying diamonds for a ton, lets travel there to sell some!" may become commonplace. In addition, if this system of banding together for mutual defense and benefit becomes common, we would see things similar to the real-life nationstates emerge.

 

[favoured]

These are all visons, if they do happen its going to take a while, but i hope what you says happens, i really do.

 

[MonMarty]

Actually I think it could build up the global economy. A united republic would have not only infrastructure, but also businesses. The fact that we (Serenum, at least) are using the f access system allows for shops to be placed not only in your faction land, but in other factions areas if you "buy" the chunk, perhaps. I'm encouraging franchise-shops to set up in my city, and from there they will hopefully spread to other factions. Recognizable names will pop up, and the security offered by the Republic's united & defended borders will allow for the freedom to actually go to cities and trade.

Things such as "A shop in Serenotta is buying diamonds for a ton, lets travel there to sell some!" may become commonplace. In addition, if this system of banding together for mutual defense and benefit becomes common, we would see things similar to the real-life nationstates emerge.

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Nothing beats eating diamonds iron and enderpearls more then a couple of big wars.

Decadence follows in times of peace.

Although arguably decadence ends in internal strife as the jimmies grow restless, so that would result in even more wars and a better flow of goods.

By all means, have your republic.

 

[Darkfeather]

Nothing beats eating diamonds iron and enderpearls more then a couple of big wars.

Decadence follows in times of peace.

Although arguably decadence ends in internal strife as the jimmies grow restless, so that would result in even more wars and a better flow of goods.

By all means, have your republic.

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This is true, but the Diamonds, Iron, and Enderpearls go towards nothing. In a large and peaceful system, they will go towards creating larger and better projects for the server, such as cathedrals of unimaginable size or walls that span hundreds of chunks. Indirectly, of course, as they will be sold to make these projects

 

[MonMarty]

I have a dream

 

[Draco918]

I'm a little curious as to what the Republic's plans are in the rest of Ellador.

 

[Darkfeather]

I have a dream

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There was a time when I could have made that.... <.< My diamonds were taken out of my locked chests when I went inactive

I'm a little curious as to what the Republic's plans are in the rest of Ellador.

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Absolutely nothing. We'd like to consolidate in the continent we're all located on.

 

[southw3i3n3d]

I have a dream

Spoiler

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*changes texture pack*
Your dream is now reality!

 

[argos498]

The Republic sounds interesting, but I can see that if I joined, I would get nowhere. Social ladder-climbing isn't my thing, and big factions like this hardly have the grace to grant promotions for hard work/loyalty, unless the promoted individual is close to the top of the chain, in which case, the brass take notice.
I spit on your 'unity', let there be anarchy!

 

[Bsavs]

This is a video game so there isn't really a "social ladder" and hard work/loyalty are the only things we would give promotions/gifts for so I beg to differ.

 

[EyebrowsJ]

I have a dream

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I want that...
{CABS}

 

[Chris Knight]

I dont get what you mean by promotions. Officers of Serenum are the only ranks we can give, and those are for members of serenum who have earned our trust through hard work and loyalty. Other factions are free to promote officers however they want, and the Senate is elected by the factions, one Senator per faction. So the closest thing to "Climbing the social ladder" would be becoming a Senator, which only requires your factions support. (or another factions, they can elect a senator from outside their faction if they want.)

 

[Darkfeather]

Agreed, in addition to that I suppose you could join the completely voluntary ministries, but it's not like that's going to be a ladder, it's more of groups of people that want to get something done

 

[MonMarty]

I have an interesting point I just came up with, are you guys going to selectively refuse admitting really small factions?

 

[Tahmas]

I'm very interested in hearing about what the Serene 'Empire/Republic' currently is, what it means and what their plan is. Perhaps some of the leaders should talk to me on Teamspeak at some point.

 

[Darkfeather]

I have an interesting point I just came up with, are you guys going to selectively refuse admitting really small factions?

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No, but as you need 10 members to qualify for a senator, the very tiny factions are often grouped with a faction that they are friendly with, to jointly select their Senator

I'm very interested in hearing about what the Serene 'Empire/Republic' currently is, what it means and what their plan is. Perhaps some of the leaders should talk to me on Teamspeak at some point.

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Certainly, we haven't had the election yet, but it will hopefully be soon

 

[argos498]

Pfft. An RP game with a hierarchy is prone to social ladder-climbing. It's a natural side-effect. Hierarchy without social climbing is like Charlie Sheen without crack. It isn't likely.